Basically any place that does not have waterproofing between the tile and shower framing. These products shrink a bit as they dry so you must make sure that it has not shrunk enough to create holes or voids in places such as corners and seams. I read somewhere that ... silicone should be OK but you have to be very careful not to get the silicone on the surface as nothing sticks to silicone. What I meant was tape the gap with mesh tape from the bottom of the backer board down to the top part of the tub flange and regard over the mesh tape with a couple of coats. 04-26-2006, 03:35 PM. Can you apply Redgard directly to wood (like2x4 or plywood) for a shower shelf (no Wonderboard)? I don’t have that luxury at this point! Step by step: Use fiberglass tape, not drywall mesh tape. (not easy to do with a thin set installation). What type of Primer do you suggest to paint over the RedGard with before applying Joint compound? Click to see full answer. Regard will not stick to 100% silicone caulk. Hello, we are tiling our shower. Moreover, the Flexbond modified thinset (sold at HD, for example) specifically lists redgard as one of the surfaces it can be applied to and therefore, following manufacturer recommendations, a person should be using a modified thinset like flexbond over Redgard. I just want to do the right thing. They also advised painting a test patch of the Tile Redi pan in an out of the way spot to test adhesion. This is more of a cosmetic application question as opposed to applying redgard on a tile substrate. Modified. It will not negatively react with your tile redi pan (but don’t tell them I told you that ). RedGard® as Crack Prevention Membrane. Do you know if it can or should be done? I also use these products for main or additional waterproofing on things like shower niches and concrete wall in basements, places where it is difficult to have a plastic vapor membrane behind the backerboards. Do I need to use RedGard over Hardibacker. If you are using a roller Custom (the company that makes redgard) recommends that you roll on the first coat horizontally and the second coat vertically to ensure full coverage. After curing, clamp the upper flange onto the membrane and tighten. I asked the same question regarding the Redi Tile shower pan that I installed I did not red guard the shower pan I did use the epoxy adhesive to tile it advise that I got was to not red guard it as it was already water proof. These membranes consist of products such as Custom Building Products’ Redgard and Laticrete’s Hydrobarrier and Hydroban and Mapei’s Aquadefense. Client P.IMES Corporation. Read my silicone caulking post if you’re not familiar with this product) 5. You HAVE to tear it out. Creates more problems that did not exist and 2. The membrane material is also installed. And i was wondering if redgard can be saved if seal tight for future jobs, Thanks. Use powdered thinset that you mix with water. Redgard instructies Redgard is een vloeibare waterdichting en spleet-preventie materiaal dat aan een flexibele membraan droogt. Professional Tile Installation Contractor Fort Collins and all of Northern Colorado. Any information would be helpful and appreciated. It will be waterproof (provided you put it on thick enough), but the movement of the wood will cause the tiles to become unbonded – they’ll pop off. Unmodified or modified thinset over Redgard in shower walls and ceiling? But you can use white thinset. Silicone caulk adheres well to all of these materials, and because it has elasticity, it won't crack or break when materials like wood expand in response to environmental conditions. Cost ~$120 Besides, does 100% silicone stick to RedGard? Was your Tile Redi base a hard plastic? Can RedGard be used as a shower pan liner? A toilet flange can be handled in much the same manner. 3. Yes, you can use silicone first if you want. © AskingLot.com LTD 2021 All Rights Reserved. It will create a damp layer (mud bed) between two waterproof layers (liner and redgard) and it will grow mold. I assume the regular adhesive will work just fine. You can use any good modified thinset over redgard. No. Thanks. RedGuard is not harder to adhere to. Caulk that gap with siliconized or latex caulk and then use Redgard over the caulk. You really don't need the RedGard, but the more protection the betterso go for it. Also, I believe modified takes longer to cure and requires aeration, and with Redgard being an impervious layer I feel will not allow it to aerate properly to cure. My question is about the RedGard. My son told me all the cool kids are doin’ it! Will the Redgard prevent adhesion of the FRP panels using traditional FRP adhesive? The brand we have is flextile. I’ve decided to have my privacy violated and start putting things on Facebook. 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